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Geekout with Matt Navarra

By Matt Navarra & Big Revolution

Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant explore the world of social media, talking to big names and chewing over the latest news.
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19. LinkedIn's unusual approach to news on social media, with Katie Carroll

Geekout with Matt NavarraSep 07, 2021

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19. LinkedIn's unusual approach to news on social media, with Katie Carroll

19. LinkedIn's unusual approach to news on social media, with Katie Carroll

Katie Carroll heads up LinkedIn News for North America and the UK. In a world where social media is rife with misinformation and trashy stories that waste your time, LinkedIn curates and packages news to help the platform's professional audience get the information they need to help them do their jobs better. Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant spoke to Katie about LinkedIn's approach to news, the challenges it faces, and how users can get more out of the platform.

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Geekout - social media news and analysis

Tech Revolution - what today's tech news means for the future

Diary of a Social Media Manager - industry news and gossip for social media managers

Sep 07, 202134:14
18. What's next for Facebook messaging, with Messenger's Stan Chudnovsky

18. What's next for Facebook messaging, with Messenger's Stan Chudnovsky

Stan Chudnovsky heads up Messenger at Facebook. As Messenger turns 10 years old, we ask him about its future as it transitions into being more of a layer across all of Facebook's properties, rather than just a standalone app. How does Instagram messaging and WhatsApp fit into this world? What about the metaverse? And can everything you do on Messenger be encrypted without unleashing other problems?

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Geekout - social media news and analysis 

Tech Revolution - what today's tech news means for the future 

Diary of a Social Media Manager - industry news and gossip for social media managers

Aug 31, 202126:51
17. The Real Facebook Oversight Board on fighting social media's dark side

17. The Real Facebook Oversight Board on fighting social media's dark side

Carole Cadwalladr and Professor David Carroll are both well known voices against what they see as Facebook’s wrongdoing. They were two founding members of a group called The Real Facebook Oversight Board, launched just three weeks before Facebook’s official Oversight Board started work last year.

Since then they’ve used the media to get their message out about everything from Facebook’s handling of the US election to the problem of vaccine misinformation on the company’s platforms.

Outside the Real Facebook Oversight Board, Carole is a well-known journalist who broke the Cambridge Analytica scandal, and David Carroll was seen in the Netflix documentary The Great Hack trying to get his data back from Cambridge Analytica.

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Diary of a Social Media Manager - industry news and gossip for social media managers

Aug 18, 202147:31
16. The BBC's Sophia Smith Galer on TikTok journalism and positivity online
Aug 04, 202150:43
15. Shopify's Shimona Mehta on the social shopping revolution
Jul 27, 202148:60
14. WhatsApp's Will Cathcart on the battle for encryption, and future of messaging
Jul 19, 202131:48
Season 3: Coming soon

Season 3: Coming soon

Geekout with Matt Navarra is back, and this time... we’re doing it live. Yes, we’re returning to grill more well-known personalities? from the world of social media. This time the special guests we’ve got lined up include senior figures from Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, the BBC, and more. And we’ll be streaming live on Twitter Spaces, so you can tune in as the interviews happen. Don't worry if you miss the live broadcast, we'll be right here in your favourite podcast player to listen back later, too.

Jul 07, 202100:48
13. Coronavirus edition with Sara Fischer (Axios) and John Saroff (Chartbeat)

13. Coronavirus edition with Sara Fischer (Axios) and John Saroff (Chartbeat)

In the first of a series of special episodes looking at the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, we look at how the world of digital media and the big social platforms have been affected.

We’re joined by Sara Fischer, media reporter at Axios, and John Saroff, CEO of Chartbeat, to explore whether there’s redemption in the air for Facebook, how publishers are innovating during the crisis, whether a media bloodbath is on the horizon, and much more.

Subscribe to Sara’s weekly Axios Media Trends newsletter

Find out more about Chartbeat’s analysis of how coronavirus is impacting the news.

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Apr 07, 202045:18
12. Snap's Ed Couchman on why Snapchat matters in 2020

12. Snap's Ed Couchman on why Snapchat matters in 2020

Ed Couchman is general manager for Snap in the UK, overseeing the business growth of the company there..

Ed joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to talk how Snapchat is evolving, the features people don’t necessarily make the most of, how marketers can make more of the platform, how Snap’s Spectacles might evolve in the future, and more.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news, share the latest tests and tools you need to know about, and they ponder the peculiarities of train travel.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

Instagram prototypes letting IGTV creators monetize with ads

Facebook Dating launch blocked in Europe

UK names its pick for social media ‘harms’ watchdog

The show is taking a break after this episode, but worry not —we’ll be back very soon!

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Feb 13, 202048:49
11. Digitas' James Whatley on the evolution of social media

11. Digitas' James Whatley on the evolution of social media

James Whatley has been a social media geek so long he practically invented the term. These days he's a strategy partner at Digitas, where he helps brands make the most of digital platforms.

James joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to talk about how social media has evolved over the past 15 years, how brands use it well, whether TikTok is a flash in the pan, Facebook’s PR slip-ups, why it’s so hard to respect modern political marketing online, and more, as we kick back for a less formal interview than usual.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news, share the latest tests and tools you need to know about, and Martin tries to get Matt into BoJack Horseman.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

YouTube is a $15 billion-a-year business, Google reveals for the first time

Instagram Brings In More Than a Quarter of Facebook Sales

Instagram's Search Results For Vaccines Are A Public Health Nightmare

Twitter Just Released Its Plan To Deal With Deep Fakes

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Feb 06, 202001:20:30
10. Chartbeat's John Saroff on social analytics and the future of online publishing

10. Chartbeat's John Saroff on social analytics and the future of online publishing

Ask staff at many of the world’s leading newsrooms what software they rely on the most and Chartbeat will be near the top of the list. John Saroff is CEO of Chartbeat, which means he has plenty of insights into the way online publishers — and their audiences —are evolving.

John joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to talk about the changing habits of online publishers, the best ways to use social media to drive traffic and engagement to online brands, tips for smaller bloggers and publishers, and the future of Facebook’s often rocky relationship with the news industry.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news, share the latest tests and tools you need to know about, and Matt gets grumpy about the Martin’s attempts to sledgehammer Aretha Franklin and Sylvester lyrics into the end of the show.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

Damian Collins is replaced as chair of the UK Parliament DCMS select committee

Vine reboot Byte officially launches

Starting the Decade by Giving You More Control Over Your Privacy (and why it doesn’t do what it says it does)

In Quick Hits, we mention Instagram Addresses Questions on Algorithm, Comment Pods and Verification [Infographic]

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Jan 30, 202059:04
9. Vix Meldrew on the influencer industry in 2020

9. Vix Meldrew on the influencer industry in 2020

Vix Meldrew is a content creator and the founder of Grow & Glow, a community for creators who want to build sustainable storytelling businesses.

Vix talks to Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant about how the influencer industry is evolving from simple paid endorsements to more involved forms of storytelling. She discusses making the leap from school teacher to full-time online creator, the challenges of what many people consider a glamorous life, and how she helps others to develop the kind of career she has.

How can the influencer industry become more transparent and inclusive? Vix shares her thoughts. She also discusses her relationship with Pinterest, how the platform supports her work, and her tips for how influencers can make the most to fit.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news, share the latest tests and tools you need to know about, and Martin extols the virtues of a 4G-enabled iPad when traveling.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It

Facebook backs off plan to plaster ads all over WhatsApp

Snap founder says TikTok could dethrone Instagram

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Jan 23, 202058:34
8. Instagram's Vishal Shah
Jan 16, 202058:23
7. The New York Times' Taylor Lorenz

7. The New York Times' Taylor Lorenz

Taylor Lorenz of The New York Times has carved out a niche for herself as the journalist who explains youth culture online to the rest of us. Whether it’s Google Docs as a social network or party invites via Instagram, she understands the trends many of us would never hear of without her stories.

Taylor joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to discuss the rise of TikTok, the future of influencers, and why it’s better not to make predictions about the future. Oh, and Martin and Taylor have a heated disagreement over whether it’s Twitter or its users who need to change.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

ByteDance & TikTok have secretly built a deepfakes maker

Facebook bans deepfake videos ahead of the 2020 election

Snapchat quietly acquired AI Factory, the company behind its new Cameos feature, for $166M

Instagram failing to attract older people as user growth set to flatline


Some must-read stories by Taylor Lorenz:

The Hottest Chat App for Teens Is … Google Docs

Instagram Is the New Evite

How Twitter Became The Number One Social Network For Nudists

How the Pineapple Became the Icon of I.V.F.

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Jan 09, 202058:01
6. Hashtag inventor (and much more) Chris Messina

6. Hashtag inventor (and much more) Chris Messina

Chris Messina is the inventor of the hashtag, but he’s been asked about that far too many times for us to bring it up much here. Good thing that he’s a deep thinker about products, platforms, and social engagement, and has lots to say about topics we love on this podcast.

Chris joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to discuss whether social media is at an inflexion point, and where it goes next. We also go in deep on Instagram’s motivations behind launching the rather threadbare new app Threads; whether users will ever be asked to pay for Facebook; how to deal with information overload, and lots more.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

This is the end of season one, but we’ll be back soon!

News stories:

Instagram introduces Threads, a new messaging app for your close friends

Google Weighs Acquisition of Rival to Video App TikTok

TikTok explains its ban on political advertising

Horny People, You’re Free: Instagram’s Following Tab Is Gone

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Oct 10, 201901:32:44
5. Pinterest's Colleen Stauffer

5. Pinterest's Colleen Stauffer

Colleen Stauffer is Pinterest's Director of Global Business Marketing. She joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to discuss this often misunderstood platform, how it can help digital marketers and social media managers, and she shares her views on the future of digital marketing.

We dig into the increasingly visual way we all communicate, what social media platforms can learn from Pinterest when it comes to tackling misinformation, how AR could fit into Pinterest's future, and how Pinterest is evolving as a platform.

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com

News stories (Facebook special!):

With Facebook’s Coming News Tab, Only Some Will Get Paid

Current and former Facebook execs say reports WhatsApp will hand encrypted messages to UK police are wrong

In two hours of leaked audio, Mark Zuckerberg rallies Facebook employees against critics, competitors, and the US government

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Oct 03, 201958:49
4. Facebook's Andrew 'Boz' Bosworth

4. Facebook's Andrew 'Boz' Bosworth

Andrew 'Boz' Bosworth is Facebook's VP responsible for VR and AR. He joins Matt Navarra and Martin 'SFP' Bryant moments after stepping off the stage at Oculus Connect 6, Facebook's latest VR developer conference. He talks us through some of the biggest news from the event and we explore how important virtual worlds could become to our lives in the future. 

Is Facebook Horizon a second chance for Second Life? How will Oculus Business bring VR to the office? Can Facebook convince the public to put Portal cameras in their living rooms? How do the forthcoming AR glasses fit into Facebook's plans, and why was Boz's doctor using Google Glass while treating him recently? And is Facebook the right company to be doing all of this VR and AR stuff anyway?

Meanwhile, Matt and Martin talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com. You can learn more about Pinterest Board Collaboration here.

News stories:

YouTube Rolls Back Verification Changes, Says Verified Creators Can Keep Their Badge

Snap's 'Project Voldemort' dossier detailed Facebook's copycat moves

Facebook to shut down its group stories feature next week

Facebook promises not to stop politicians’ lies & hate

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Sep 26, 201957:50
3. UK Parliament's Damian Collins

3. UK Parliament's Damian Collins

Damian Collins has social media regulation in his sights, and as chair of UK Parliament's DCMS select committee, he's got strong opinions on how to whip the tech companies into shape. Here he joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to explain why tech companies seem to particularly fear scrutiny from UK politicians, whether we need international rules to govern big tech, what he thinks about Netflix's The Great Hack (in which he appeared)... and just what is Mark Zuckerberg's deal, anyway? 

It's a wide ranging and fascinating chat with a man leading the charge toward greater regulation of the apps we all use. And we talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

Facebook working on smart glasses with Ray-Ban, code-named ‘Orion’

Establishing Structure and Governance for an Independent Oversight Board

Nextdoor’s new Kindness Reminder wants to stop neighbors from being so mean

Facebook introduces Portal TV, a video chat camera accessory for your television

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Sep 19, 201901:00:55
2. CNN's Kerry Flynn

2. CNN's Kerry Flynn

CNN media reporter Kerry Flynn joins Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant to discuss the future of social media. Is there room for new platforms to break through? Is Facebook doomed to be associated with data misuse forever? What will tech look like in 10 years time? And is TikTok just a fad? We also get nostalgic over FriendFeed and Yo, and find out who Kerry would rather have over for dinner: Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, or Evan Spiegel. 

And we talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

Facebook Dating launches in the US, adds Instagram integration

Apple will live stream its iPhone 11 event on YouTube for the first time

Facebook is under investigation by state attorneys general for antitrust violations

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Sep 12, 201901:04:41
1. Twitter's Sara Haider

1. Twitter's Sara Haider

Twitter’s Director, Product Management, Sara Haider chats to hosts Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant. We find out the latest on the much-requested edit button; the state of play with Twitter’s verification program; how product design can aid positive mental health; Martin pitches Sara his idea for a standalone DMs app, and Matt tries his hardest to uncover Twitter’s Konami code (they must have one, right?).

Matt and Martin also talk over the week’s news and share the latest tests and tools you need to know about.

Geekout with Matt Navarra is sponsored by Pinterest. Inspire your audience and grow your company on Pinterest with a free business account. Learn more at business.pinterest.com.

News stories:

Now Facebook says it may remove Like counts

Viral Deepfake App ZAO Sparks Mass Downloads, Memes and Major Concerns

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey’s account was hacked

Twitter disables tweeting via SMS after CEO gets hacked


Apply to use Twitter’s prototype app Twttr here.


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Sep 05, 201901:00:40
Coming soon

Coming soon

Introducing Geekout with Matt Navarra. We'll meet the people building your favourite social media apps, opinionated journalists, and even headstrong politicians who are shaping the future of tech. Launching early September, 2019, hosted by Matt Navarra and Martin SFP Bryant. Subscribe now to get each episode delivered your podcast app.

Aug 30, 201900:47